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Shift Happens (work safe)

The top 25% intelligent population in China...
out numbers the total population of North America.
In India, it's the top 28%.
Translation for teachers:
They have more honors kids than we have kids.




Actually, so work safe, you'll probably want to let your boss know about it.

http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/2007/10/bow_to_shift.html

thomaspmbarnett

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pangolin
Oct. 23rd, 2007 07:41 pm (UTC)
This seems to assume that no catastrophic failures will occur between now and then, which they will. We really need to start reinventing how we do a lot of things.

The note about internet penetration is not really relevant as there are quite a lot of countries, particularly European ones that are both smaller and more densely populated/urbanized. Is it really important to have full internet penetration in the rocky mountains? Or does this mean some sort of per capita thing. I guess it's difficult to judge without knowing what is meant by 'penetration'.

However, the U.S. is definitely on a downward trend, thanks to our increasingly consumerist culture and in no small part to the shrub.
gurgi
Oct. 23rd, 2007 08:08 pm (UTC)
and in no small part to the shrub.


Oh this logic I just gotta hear...
pangolin
Oct. 23rd, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC)
Oh, it's just that this decade was a certain turning point in history and rather than working towards fixing problems (health care, environment, education, economy), which would have helped, he chose to go to war and continue going to war. Granted, it's probably just as much the fault of the American people and the courts for putting him there in the first place, which references the previously mentioned cultural issue.
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gurgi
Oct. 23rd, 2007 08:51 pm (UTC)
damn... lost my close tag somewhere...
pamc
Oct. 23rd, 2007 08:49 pm (UTC)
And I can show you how each one of those problems you mentioned have everything to do with the Clintons: they started it, they perpetuated it, and we're still cleaning up the mess.

Preemption was and still is a good idea. Pulling out of Iraq is the worst thing we could do right now. Does anyone remember Black Hawk Down? That's all Clinton, further supported by the Powell Doctrine.

They way to keep 9-11 for happening is to figure out what their goals are and get there first. Basically Al Queda whants to take a chunk of humanity back in time to some past mythical ideal. We say it with Stalin. We saw it with Mao.

WHat would you have done instead?
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Mostly to gurgi, but also fyi to pamc - pangolin - Oct. 24th, 2007 09:24 pm (UTC) - Expand
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pangolin
Oct. 23rd, 2007 11:23 pm (UTC)
Please do, and show how it was not also from Reagan, and our fucked up culture. I was actually fairly unaware of politics at the time of the Clinton administration, but I have observed much monumental stupidity on the part of the shrub.
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pamc
Oct. 23rd, 2007 08:42 pm (UTC)
However, the U.S. is definitely on a downward trend

Ummm... are you sure we live in the same country? Took the same History classes? Watch the same news?

Madame, there is no second.

And you completely missed the boat on broadband penetration. It has very little to do with geography, though you are correct that they're not showing the full picture.
pangolin
Oct. 23rd, 2007 11:05 pm (UTC)
Well, like I said, it's not completely clear what is meant by 'penetration'. A clarification would allow further discussion or understanding.
pamc
Oct. 24th, 2007 12:09 am (UTC)
If you Google the article (I'll see if I can find you a link) they're pretty clear about how they define it. But I do agree it's not a fair comparison. Of course there's going to be a ton of penetration in the EU (especially) because the phones are government run and utilities are so damn expensive. Broadband isn't.

I'd also argue that the US has already moved on from broadband (sooooo last century) and on to things like cellular, WiFi, and sattelite. All connection to the internet needs to be taken into consideration. Who cares about 2nd gen when we've moved on to 4th and 5th?
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gurgi
Oct. 23rd, 2007 08:06 pm (UTC)
COnsidering the type of people the company I work for deals with in China, I'm not terribly impressed by their top 25%...

The top 25% of the remedial class is still stupid, after all...
pamc
Oct. 23rd, 2007 08:56 pm (UTC)
IQ should be a universal scale regardless of education. But that's beside the point...

The point is we really need to open our doors to more immigration. Not for competition, but for the economy. Europe is in a labor crisis. Japan is in a labor crisis (when Japan opens its doors to immigrants, you know something BIG is going on). We're on the verge of one. We just don't have enough people working compared to those who don't.

Technology will help, sure. Gobal markets will too. But eventually there's still the problem of a labor shortage. People need to move from the most populated countries to middle and least populated countries. Money needs to flow in the opposite direction, as do goods.

That, or someone needs to come of with an entirely different way we deal with production and wealth... but when Pure Interest is *exactly* what it has been since the ROMANS... I think we're working with a fixed problem.
gurgi
Oct. 23rd, 2007 09:21 pm (UTC)
IQ should be a universal scale regardless of education. But that's beside the point...

But that isn't what it says...

It says the top 25%. It makes no refference to IQ. If the entire country has an IQ of no more that 60, then the top 25% are still retarded...

Make sense? :)
pamc
Oct. 23rd, 2007 10:53 pm (UTC)
Ah.... my quote makes no reference to IQ... but the actual film does.

Gotcha ;)
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